Board Thread:Admin/Chatmod Board/@comment-6812733-20150722211127/@comment-25802715-20150723000421

I don't mind if people are posting ban requests.

I'm more about concerend about having one topic(mark me if I am wrong but it looks like you're saying this topic is where we post the reasons) that shows all of the reasons for bans.

Points

First of all, there is a contributions list that already exists and we can look at the logs for that (assuming the mods/admins provide detailed explanation and made sure they have the proof with them).

Second, posting it here in the public can lead to further discussions. For example, people judging how long they were banned for, or not enough warnings, or excuses, or other signs of arguments against the ban. This also can flood the thread with nonsense than it's original purpose. I understand that there is a deletion option but it wouldn't prevent that. Certain communities keep it confidential for various reasons, this is one of the major reasons. Especially when you have a valid reason, dealing with criticism is a waste of time.

Third, now I understand that you want to use this as way to see other user's behaviour. There is already a contributions that shows that as I said earlier. It may be much better to start warning people about the future consquences after banning them with valid reasons. As for proof, proof should always be documented before going to ban the user. If there is any concerns you have such as lack of proof, then you may contact the one who initiated the ban (but don't remove the ban based on your own judgement because the one who banned may had a reason).

Lastly, if you feel that mods/admins are not providing enough details on the ban reason, we can simply just add in the extra information there. (Ex. Posting pornographic content that harasses Pezminer. Banned for 3 days based on {insertreasons}. Ban date may be adjusted by Pezminer)

To summarize my arguments and suggestions:

Admin and Chatmod Showing that they banned someone on this thread (bad title)

- If admins/mods already provided a clear reason on the contributions page, then I see no reason to add a proof. Surely batran hadn't picked wrong people to be mods/admins; they are experienced with obtaining valid reasons to ban right? If there is a concern you have with a specific ban reason, you can contact the one who initiated the ban because they should have a reason why they ban. Don't handle it until it is clarified and discussed.

- By keeping evidence confidential, this produces less public criticism which happens often on many communities. That's why some communities resort to ticket systems. Even though some users may already witnessed it, the purpose of documenting will still be confidential.

Ban Request Forum

- The ban request forum is a great idea, I have no objections.