User blog:VeryIrrelevant/Blog 1: Wiki Impressions

-some of the things I say aren't serious, if there's something you are unsure about, just ask, don't assume m8-

-read everything before you respond with something stupid that's already been covered-

You know I actually tried to make one of these Blog things a while back but the Wiki glitched up or something and it just deleted my text.. that was fun!

So yeah I just wanna talk about like.. what I think about the wiki and stuff like that.. well mostly the chat and the people in the chat. So people in the chat were... interesting.

Usually they just talk about some browser game called "atWar" and post links for it, or they might talk about like a new series they're making or something like that. Occasionally an irredentist nationalist might come there and start being weird, surprisingly this really doesn't happen often at all.

I can only really call one person that.. some "Vankata" person from Bulgaria. He has some generic Bulgarian nationalistic comments as you would, but what was interesting was that he said "Bulgars" instead of "Bulgarians", and if you don't know, Bulgars were a Turkic tribe, while Bulgarians are south slavs... mostly.. I tried to correct him, but he just didn't care. He also kept saying how he was ignoring me, which most of the time he did but sometimes he didn't.. strange I must say.

I used to think that most people in the wiki were constantly joking around and being silly.. but that changed when I met "CorrosiveDragon" someone who turned out to be... really interesting. I first saw him in some strange podcast that he's in, that someone linked in the chat, I didn't watch a lot of it but he seemed fine to me. One time we were the only ones in the chat and had a little discussion.. about me finding nationalistic irredentist comments, like the ones from Vankata, funny and stuff like that. I think that painted me in a negative light to him.. which is fine, didn't really matter to me. Our discussion made me see that this was someone who was taking moderating a wiki a bit too seriously. I've met people like that before, but on forums, not wikis. So I didn't really care that much. What made me think that was when he mentioned the terms of service of Wikia itself. By that I mean like.. the main site, the hub Wikia.com y'know. And it's just a bit strange to me. It's kind of like the "terms of service" when you're installing a program, game, etc. Stuff people usually don't read or care about. I guess he does. Maybe not, I don't know, he'd probably disagree with this.

Honestly it seems like he just disagrees with anything I say. Which is kind of funny.. in some way. He'd probably think this blog post is attacking him or something and remove it.. ..no.. I'm just talking about stuff, it's kind of like a diary or something. But yeah, the first time we had a real conflict was one I documented on this thread I sent to some admins: http://thefutureofeuropes.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:266477

The thread and the events that happened are a real mess. Especially to explain. I tried making a video where I just try to clear everything up, but it ended up being 50 mins long and not nearly finished, so this "thing" is something I'd have to really think about if I wanted to explain it.. maybe in another blog post I'll do it. I still want to talk about it for a bit though.

Basically, I was banned from the chat for 12 hours, for what I saw as very unclear reasons. The exact reason stated was "Disruptive." which is.. very vague. What happened was some argument in the chat with CorrosiveDragon where he stated all things he didn't like about me and I just tried to argue about them. In the end, just a seemengly random ban. To me this looked like a typical "i won the argument and now I close the thread so you can't argue back" type of thing. But now I'm not 100% sure and I won't jump to any conclusions. From what he said.. the ban reason was.. all of the things I said in the past that he argued about, and that the arguments were just him confirming then. I'm not sure I can believe that, but at the same time I can't simply deny it, so I'll just state it. Now he did lower the ban to 2 hours, which I didn't mention yet, so there's that. I'd probably be happy about that if the ban reason was less vague and confusing. But since it wasn't I just.. "OK". Now this Blog post, once again, isn't an argument, not this one at least. If I make one of those it'll have thought put into it.

Now after this I started being a bit more cautious, stating that some of my comments were jokes/sarcasm to not cause anymore nonsense liked this. There were mostly no incedents after the one in the Thread, chat was back to normal with "atWar" and new videos etc.

But then a very.. strange thing happened. Today even, right before I wrote this blog post actually. I can even explain this one since it's much shoter than the other one. Here's a PasteBin of the chat log, since I haven't posted it anywhere else, if someone cares: http://pastebin.com/apfiD8wZ

So.. I just tabbed back to the chat, saw that JMathias was talking about nukes or something, I said "Nuke Norway" as a reference to a YouTuber and Omegle troller: https://www.youtube.com/user/nukenorway Then I tabbed out, when I tabbed back I noticed I was kicked. Now yeah, kicks are constantly happening in the chat when people are "Away" but I was tabbed out for less than 5 mins. So I said that in the chat. And CorrosiveDragon said that I was kicked for "Nuke Norway", I kind of assumend that, but at the same time I really didn't want to assume that. So I just said that it was a YouTuber. And after that all hell broke loose. A... very stupid argument happened with CorrosiveDragon about this. First I asked for an apology since... it was a reference to a YouTuber... and if no apology, I just wanted him to acknowledge that.. I referenced a YouTuber and didn't really call for the nuking of The Kingdom of Norway.

His main argument was that I am lying about this being a reference to a YouTuber, because I put a space between "Nuke and "Norway" and because I waited 4 mins after getting kicked to say that. Now.. I don't even know when I was kicked, since I tabbed out as soon as I posted that in the chat, to do something else..

And even if I didn't tab out. I have no reason to say that it was a reference as soon as I post it. I didn't know 100% that it was the kick reason. So that's why I asked about it in the chat. And as soon as I got confirmation from CorrosiveDragon about my kick being for the post, I posted the YouTube link as soon as I could. It's just a very stupid argument. I honestly feel like this guy just really doesn't like me, and that's what drove him to push this argument constantly.. even if it makes no sense. Now I'm not sure, because I'm not him, I can only assume that.

Now a very surprising thing happened after all that. Another ban.. I didn't expect that, but that's not it, what I didn't expect even more was... for the ban to be 14 days long. Not hours, days. The ban reason was "You said "Nuke Norway", then demanded an apology.", now I didn't only demand an apology, I just said I wanted an apology OR, the key word here is OR, just an acknowledgement that what I said was a reference to a YouTuber, that's all. You can see it in the chat log on the PasteBin document. This really just seems like an excuse to ban, for disliking me. Now I really don't understand the 14 day part? Wiki user CanadianMapper just a few days before this actually, wanted to blackmail someone and only got banned for 1 day, it's just very strange, I don't understand how the ban time is even determined.

So yeah, just a strange experience on this wiki for me. Especially the 14 day ban thing, everything about it.. the ban time itself.. the absolutely nonsensical argument.. it's just strange. I don't understand it. It's really frustrating when someone silences you during an argument, even more frustrating when they have "the power".... even more frustrating when they have followers who just ignore your argument. But it's all in good fun, I hope at least.