Talk:A Bad Past (Map Game)/@comment-26044830-20170428074401

btw I have a stupid but challenging suggestion just to make the new world more powerful than Europeans

For the Americas, we should make the Aztecs, Mayans, Incans and these North American tribes a bit stronger than all average powers of Europe and Asia combined. The Swedes may see them puny but they have better organisation, a better morale and generally a bit ahead (say early 16th century or something) by technology

What if the Americans have used metallurgy on weaponry instead, using copper and/or silver as weapons rather than jewellery (doesn't mean they can't stop them) in the 9th century CE. Then the other native Americans (living in the Great Lakes) discover a more flexible kind of metal (obviously iron), allowing further developments into metallurgy first in that area then eventually spread into Mexico which started the rise of the Aztecs in the 14th century CE.

Then if we want to get further ahead, then we must also include gunpowder as well. The Mayans would probably do well than the Aztec counterparts, using shamans instead of some weird Chinese man. That should happen somewhere later. Also to keep it even more stronger, their ships wouldn't exist without the vikings landing into Newfoundland and Labrador. Then some of the natives drive them back to Iceland or whatever location they come from, they should be able within ~1000 years or so have allowed the boat-building technology by the sea to the southernmost part of the Americas. The Aztecs would've quickly adapted it into naval warfare by the start of the 13th-15th century, allowing their conquests to the Caribbean easily.

However the downside is that they only know Greenland and Iceland, nothing else. Of course they still have expeditions to West Africa but nothing more. (WIP)

May not be added because its probably just stupid but this could make them a big challenge if the Europeans (ever but guaranteed) colonise Americas. >Chuzzy be triggered