Thread:Batran99/@comment-24838416-20141224180652/@comment-6812733-20141227151432

Zukasratavarius wrote: Communism is what comes next from Socialism, after a long time has passed through Socialism where there is No money, No government, Everything is voluntary and which there is no greed anymore in which we work together to eliminate greed. There is no active coercion because there is no government to make it do anything, people do it because their consciousness has evolved to a point where we don't hate people anymore, we don't have greed. So basicly you're telling us to throw away everything we've had and gained in the past, about 10000 years or so, becoming hunter-gatherers. Because have you seen how many people would do anything they don't like voluntarily? A very small minority. There always needs to be something you can gain in exchange of your efforts. You try to "convert" this wiki into what you think is right because then you'd gain something out of it. You don't do it voluntarily, you do it for the reward even without noticing. I'm not writing this comment voluntarily, I'm doing it for the reward. Nobody does anything voluntarily, it is always for the reward. It doesn't need to be money, land, fame or power, it can just as easily be something very small like a good memory, a feeling of accomplishment, something that small. But it's still the reward you do it for.

And greed, now that's a tricky but a fun topic if you can have a good discussion about it. It is part of the human nature. We will always want something that others have, a similar bodytype, similar things they own, you name it and someone will want it. You can't eliminate greed, ever, until the last living being is killed off. That's how you end greed.