Thread:Disturbedfan1100/@comment-25802715-20150723022626

Ref: http://thefutureofeuropes.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:131460

1. I'm not saying that the ban thread idea is not a good idea. However, if only there was an alternate way to make it more confidential, then I would like that. (I will discuss more about this in later points) Otherwise, I usually resort to the public log when I check contributions and it does get annoying. I can't blame Wikia for having an unorganized system because after all, it is a free service.

2. Yes people can go to contributions and find out themselves. However, the evidence for the ban is not located in the contributions. I'm not saying that some admin or mod is banning someone with no evidence at all. When I'm talking about criticism, the evidence is a huge factor to that criticism. The no evidence one is a partial one, if they feel they need it, just show it if necessary.

The only reason why showing the evidence is a more huge factor is because some people can take evidence to a whole new level. One can say that is not enough and the other can say that is not valid or another can say it's bullshit .etc. You get the idea. By showing the evidence clearly to the public, it is easily accessed and people can easily comment on it. Then in some cases, they can start spamming it, starts forming some kind of rebellion, vandalizing and all sorts of things that can damage the Wikia. Of course I'm not saying this will happen everytime, but I've experience issues like this before. By keeping the data confidential, it is less likely this can happen. Usually when those who demand evidence, they just see it and they go "oh, okay." That is much more simple than dealing with whatever anger one can express.

3. Usually when I feel someone is not listening to their warnings/bans.etc and continues to misbehave, I usually show the initiative and report it to batran(because he's the closest one I can contact) or other admins to discuss about that misbehaving user. That's how I feel the staff should roll, not just banning with evidence and be gone with it. Yes documenting is good but my reasons are already listed in point 2.

4. I think the misbehaving chat is caused by the admin/mod not entering a reason at all. A bit lazy isn't it? However, they can always go and edit it in the contributions section but I see there is a clash with the ban date. Otherwise,

5. Point 2.

I'm not exactly saying that we should dumb this idea. What I'm suggesting is some alternative way to do this rather than putting it in the public. It could save a whole lot of trouble and time from those who may potentially flood that thread with other topics. (Especially those who bump old blog posts with "k" or "first" and etc which serves no purpose). The only issue is, what alternative ways are there. I know I can't think of one 